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Season 2Episode 10

The Swap Layer

Sergej Kunz · 1inch

About this episode

In this episode of Bullish on Bitcoin Show, Alexei sits down with Sergej Kunz, co-founder of 1inch — one of the most widely used DeFi aggregators in crypto, processing billions in trading volume across dozens of chains. From building Ethereum mining rigs in 2016, to live-streaming smart contract security audits on YouTube, to inventing intent-based trading at a hackathon in 2019, Sergej's journey is a masterclass in building from first principles.

This episode gets deep into the mechanics of how modern DeFi trading actually works — intents, Dutch auctions, MEV and sandwich attacks, cross-chain atomicity, and why most users still don't get the protection they deserve. Sergej also pulls back the curtain on 1inch Aqua, the protocol's most ambitious product yet: a full DEX replacement that turns your wallet into a liquidity venue, and what it means for LPs, market makers, and agentic trading.

In this episode we discuss:

  • Sergej's origin story: Litecoin mining on a MacBook, Ethereum rigs, live smart contract audits, and how 1inch was born at a hackathon
  • Why 1inch built intent-based trading in 2023 — and why it took two years for the industry to catch up
  • How intents protect users from sandwich attacks, failed transactions, and MEV extraction
  • The Dutch auction mechanism: how 1inch Fusion works and why users can get better than market rate
  • The "over-quoting" problem in cross-chain swaps — and why it's harder to detect than same-chain dishonesty
  • Atomic cross-chain swaps via intents: why 1inch's HTLC-based model is different from bridges
  • Why 1inch has no competitors — only partners — and what the market distribution data actually shows
  • 1inch Aqua: not a helper tool, but a full DEX replacement where your wallet becomes a liquidity venue
  • How Aqua unlocks concentrated, multi-pair LP strategies across RWAs, tokenized equities, and meme coins
  • Why Aqua LPs earn significantly more than traditional AMM providers — and how the backtest proves it
  • The 1inch MCP: how agents can already manage liquidity positions via Claude, Cursor, or ChatGPT today
  • Sub-wallets, quality gates, and the "Agent Armada" — how 1inch thinks about agentic guardrails
  • When will 1inch support native Bitcoin? Sergej reveals a prototype exists and the 2027 roadmap
  • Full agent autonomy vs human-in-the-loop: why both have a place, and what it takes to trust an agent with real money
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